Comment by Tony Allen — November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm
The local paper reported the five violations. In actuality all we have is a snap infration which should have been killed at the snap. There was no hand to hand snap.
It was rumored that the center was improperly numbered but given the mud, it would be hard to determine. You could also argue a delay of game but since they didn’t kill the play…
Finally I would agree with the Unsportsmanlike Conduct to for deception.
I think the left tackle is actually on the line but the angle is deceiving.
The “center” is indeed numbered 83. It is pretty clearly seen as he is entering the endzone. Illegal numbering.
The ball never left the centers hands, therefore a snap infraction. Dead ball.
Two men in motion. Both of the backs nearest the camera were moving at the snap. Illegal motion. If it had pulled the D offsides, I would make it a false start on the O, but no false start unless they get in the neutral zone. I don’t see a fasle start otherwise.
As for Unsportsmanlike conduct. Theres nothing that says deception is unsportsmanlike. It could be argued as an unfair act as a “travesty of the game,” however, its questionable. I remember a basketball play where a player got on all fours and barked like a dog. The NFHS said that was not a travesty, so I don’t see how this could be.
Two certain fouls:
1) Illegal snap. This one is obvious, since the ball never left the snapper’s hands. If it did, it was illegal forward handing.
2) False start on the two backs for the abrupt movement before the snap. Neither was going into motion, they just began the play early. If you don’t like that call, illegal motion.
Two possible fouls, but not from this video:
3) No foul for illegal numbering, as long as there are five players on the line numbered 50-79. We cannot determine that from the video. The snapper does not have to be numbered 50-79.
4) No foul for illegal formation. Without a view from one of the wings, I cannot say for certain that less than seven men are legally on the line.
One possible foul:
5) I suppose you could call unsportsmanlike conduct for the celebration after the touchdown. Running up the hill behind the end zone after scoring on a blatantly illegal play is a little much.
Illegal formations( 5 men in the backfieild) UnsportsmanLike Conduct, snap infraction, Illegal Motion,
Comment by Daddy Warbucks — November 4, 2009 at 11:23 am
1- Illegal Formation
2- Illegal Motion
3- False Start
4- Illegal Snap
5- Unsportsmanlike Conduct
Comment by Tony Allen — November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm
The local paper reported the five violations. In actuality all we have is a snap infration which should have been killed at the snap. There was no hand to hand snap.
It was rumored that the center was improperly numbered but given the mud, it would be hard to determine. You could also argue a delay of game but since they didn’t kill the play…
Finally I would agree with the Unsportsmanlike Conduct to for deception.
I think the left tackle is actually on the line but the angle is deceiving.
Wow! What a mess regardless of the fouls!
Comment by Todd Skaggs — November 4, 2009 at 8:48 pm
The “center” is indeed numbered 83. It is pretty clearly seen as he is entering the endzone. Illegal numbering.
The ball never left the centers hands, therefore a snap infraction. Dead ball.
Two men in motion. Both of the backs nearest the camera were moving at the snap. Illegal motion. If it had pulled the D offsides, I would make it a false start on the O, but no false start unless they get in the neutral zone. I don’t see a fasle start otherwise.
As for Unsportsmanlike conduct. Theres nothing that says deception is unsportsmanlike. It could be argued as an unfair act as a “travesty of the game,” however, its questionable. I remember a basketball play where a player got on all fours and barked like a dog. The NFHS said that was not a travesty, so I don’t see how this could be.
Comment by WyoFBRef — November 8, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Two certain fouls:
1) Illegal snap. This one is obvious, since the ball never left the snapper’s hands. If it did, it was illegal forward handing.
2) False start on the two backs for the abrupt movement before the snap. Neither was going into motion, they just began the play early. If you don’t like that call, illegal motion.
Two possible fouls, but not from this video:
3) No foul for illegal numbering, as long as there are five players on the line numbered 50-79. We cannot determine that from the video. The snapper does not have to be numbered 50-79.
4) No foul for illegal formation. Without a view from one of the wings, I cannot say for certain that less than seven men are legally on the line.
One possible foul:
5) I suppose you could call unsportsmanlike conduct for the celebration after the touchdown. Running up the hill behind the end zone after scoring on a blatantly illegal play is a little much.
Comment by Bullycon — November 9, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I think we are all on the same page with these fouls. I do appreciate everyone chiming in on what might be a once in a career type of illegal play!
Comment by Todd Skaggs — November 9, 2009 at 9:03 pm
moskvasoset i ne ebet!
Comment by NOT FOUND — February 14, 2010 at 9:38 am